Politico California’s Carla Marinucci and CalMatters’ Dan Walters join Nicole and Nigel on the final podcast episode to discuss how the pandemic shaped California politics.

“I think we have learned to live with [COVID-19], begrudgingly. Unhappily, perhaps. Although it is kind of interesting that there is this odd sort of residual resistance to the whole idea of COVID,” Walters said. “We have reports now of resignations flooding the Los Angeles Police Department by officers who are not going to comply with the vaccination mandate.

Marinucci and Walters also discussed what lies ahead for California 2022, a looming election year.